Sophie's World
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What do philosophy, religion, and science have in common? What distinguishes them from each other? Are they mutually compatible?
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What do philosophy, religion, and science have in common? What distinguishes them from each other? Are they mutually compatible?
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Throughout the years you can tell how religion and philosophy have broken apart. Same with science. In the early times scientists were almost philosophers. mainly the talk about nature. But as time went on Philosophy slowly faded away from both topics.
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Uh...sorry bout that...it's just that the whole morning so far my one long comment wouldn't get posted because of an error.
anyhow, in my, opinion, philosophy, science, and religion are all closely teid into a knot. It really depends on how, one looks at, considers, and understands these three very different and yet so similar factors of life and the world. Remember, anyone, can be a philosopher based on how they think. Sophie's learning how to think philosophically. Does science not contain human reason as does philosophy in many cases? Does religion not involve showing others the right path to a good successful life, and also making us familiar with how the world came to be? Are these not philosophy? In my opnion, philosophy is the root or base of religion and science. Also, I don't really think that they've drfited apart from another during the years, but they've actually been more related and tied together than ever today. I know people who study the philosophy of religion in universtities. Also, is it not true that it was in the past that humans chose not to include philosophy in ther faith and beliefs? How many people today include philosophy into their ways of looking at life, nature, and religion?
Uh..sorry about the spelling mistakes...next time I'll preview it first...rushing is not a wise thing to do...why do people rush? Perhaps they see that life's ahead of them...perhaps they're afraid of the slow/fast speed of the race of time, verses their own personal race. Timelines, deadlines...the word time and dead do seem to scare people quite a lot. It makes them want to make good use of it. That is why they try to choose the path that seems most suitable and preferable...would their path include having a religion or faith of some kind or not? Do they need to know the science of nature and other scientific theories in order to survive or just becuase of their intense curiousity? Will they choose to be the ones snuggling deep down at the bottom of the rabbit's fur, or will they climb the fine hairs and attempt to stare right into the magician's mysterious eyes to unlock the mystery? It all depends on the person and their society. Is philosophy added into their past, present or future? If yes, why? Why do they consider it neccessarily? Does philosophy bring happiness? Do they join philosophy, science, and religion, so they'll have a very meaningful life?
Religion, Science and Philosophy is not the same thing. Science is the study of nature based on our senses; religion is the study of nature based on the "ideal world" as Socrates and Plato have put it; and philosophy? A bit of both, or where science and religion finaly combine. They are interlinked, but not the samething. Like Chemistry and Physics are all science, but they are different subdivisions of science. I think Philosophy is more or less like theortical physics. Philosophers are always in a search of TOE, the Theory Of Everything, just like the physicists, but without having to prove their thoery.
Of coarse, they're not the samething, but they're not separate either.
But don't you think that many philosophers did prove their theory? For example, Sir Isaak was a philosopher and you could also say a scientist.
Sir Issac Newton only proved the science part of his theory, but ont the philosophy part, and pilosophy is not to be proven.
It's attempted to be proven.
I agree with q squared. It's like creation vs. evelution. Science says that humans evolved from an ape like animal. Religion tells us God put Adam and Eve on earth. Philosophy could be the happy medium, God created evelution. What I'm really interested in is how something can come from nothing. If you believe in a God, where did that God come from? When is the beginging, if there is one. I can't emagine forever, or everything. If the universe is everything how can it expand? I couldn't be everything if that's true, so there must be other universes. What's inbetween those universes?
Nice thinking and questions!
I asked the very same from my dad and I received convincing answers that I pondered for like ever=:)
Anyhow, I know that my religion-Islam has a lot to do with philosophy and science. My dad-a philosophy/science/religion/math/
language/arts freak,who's good at everything except spotrs-still loves sports though...he loves everything-says that philosophy is the base of Islam! That's completely true, since I've been researching Islam out through and through(my dad told me to see if I like my religion,) and I do think its base is philosophy! I asked if we beleive the big bang or evelution happened before Adam and Eve(who we also beleive in,) and my dad said that we, (like philosphers,) beleive that if they did happen, they didn't just happen like that! Something made them happen-God did. My dad said that the Big Bang could've happend just a tiny bit differently and everything would've gone all wrong-or the Earth could've been square instead of roud at the moment! God controled it to act the way it did. I don't have time to answer your other gigantic wonderful questions-but I myself got the answer the first day I started to read Sophie's World-cuz I automatically asked my dad. In a short explanation I'll just say: we'll most likely never even come close to understanding the vastness and greatness of God Almightt-we try to-but God doesn't fit into our brains! However, in the Quran,or other Holy books such as the Bible, God, (not He!) has given us clues-or has used similies to help us visualize. There's so much more I want to say-but I have disgusting,easy, not-challenging math homework that is of no use at all what so ever! I mean...ugh...find the pattern:1x----wow! that was hard!
Anyhow, thinking about the creation and God makes my head hurt with glory, wonder, and annoyance at the same time!
If you read soem of the prophecy books in the Bible, you will find mention of really bizzare dreams. They make no rational sense, and I think that is indeed perfect sense. If God-given visions are so unusual, it is probably because we cannot understanded them. This in itself proves how God is an uncomprehensible being by human standards, and, therefore, is Holy, and can create the universe and control it.
If God created the universe, he thus created scientific principles, such as physics, chemistry, etc, as well as every single element, molecule, phenomenon, etc. The fact that he made so many intricate things is again proof of his Glory. In this, Religion and Science are mutually compatible. However, what the evolution theory- and remeber theory- attempts to prove is that everything is scientifically based, but that just falls through a loophole, as God created the principles, so they cannot be used to explain why they exist. If anyone knows the Miller experiment, he attempted to explain how life existed, but instead he created a bunch of problems. Dr. Miller attempted to simulate the growth of life by jolting the gases Methane, Hydrogen, Ammonia, and Water Vapor with electricity to simulate lightning. He wanted them to form into amino acids. They did, but that does not equal any protiens. On top of that, it produced mosty tar and carboxylic acid, which are poisons to life. He didn't include oxygen in his experiment because that would break down the amino acids, but if life were to form, then there would have to be oxygen. And even if there wasn't, there would be no ozone layer, so UV rays would kill everything anyway. He had to isolate the amino acids to try and get them to bond, but they would bond to the stronger attraction of the tar and acid anyway. In other words, science cannot prove the existence of the universe, so therefore, it mutually depens on Religion.
Philosophy is the interesting one. According to my computer dictionary (Widgets are fun,) Philosophy is the "study of the funamental nature of knowledge, reality, and existence." Furthermore, it says it is the study of the theoretical basis of a brach of knowledge, such as the THEORY OF SCIENCE. Therefore, philosophy is also connected to science. Fundamentals are the necessary basis for which we stand on with our beliefs. In that way, religious fanatics are often called "Fundamentalists." If Philosophy is the study of reality and existences, than it is alos the study of religions. All in all, everything is tied together, and thus, Science mutually depends on Relgion and Phiosophy, Philosophy on Religion and Science, and Religion? It depends on your faith in it and the truth, and everything else is affected by it!
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
Well that is IF God had created this universe and other universes. But there is a good question to that point of view: Who created God? and who created the being that created God? The deeper I think, the more I'm convinced that we created God rather than God created us. But I could not accept the fact that I exist with no reason, because everything happens for a reason. If we are created by a higher being, why did this higher being create us and then make us guess at everything?
q-squared......
As e.e. cummings wrote, "Always the beautiful answer who asks a more beautiful question."
Nice answer postman! And q squared, your questions are quite reasonable and very deep! I'm gonna ask my dad today(some time!) and I'm gonna post the answer here...he'd told me before and I've still been pondering it...it's really hard not to criticize, but when I do criticize God I begin to feel guilty! Like...sometimes I ask...why let people do evil things?! But than...everything has a purpose...what's the purpose of the world? My dad says humans will continue to ponder stuff like this but will never completely understand it. Isn't that dissapointning?!?!
I liked the quote Ms.Watt!
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Now, the question. I can see the connecion between philosiphy and science, because in both you're trying to figure out theory's and you're kind of testing things, but I can't find the connection between those and religion, I found a couple connections but they made absolutely no sense.
Q Squared, Does God need a creator? More importantly, wouldn't the force that created God need a creator? And so on...
Somewhere something cannot be created by another. This is a major part of faith... believing in what can not be understood in Scientific terms, because nothing scientific has the capability to explain it. And, if you believe in a big bang theory or something of the sort, where did all the molecules come from?
Indeed, my statement would be if God did so. But I believe he did so, you do not as far as I can tell. All I wrote was my reasoning for such topics we are discussing.
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
You think like my dad. Seriously. and you are equally convincing...no he's a bit more convincing...gives like a million examples like Alberto...but that's cuz he's way older than u. I agree with u. I really don't hav time to write more.
Postman Craig what I get from your readings is that you took the bible word for word. Did you not? Some believe that teh bible is only representative (eg. Adam and eve may represent thousands of people)
The main thing I think religion, science and philosophy have in common are that different people believe and attempt to theorize about different things. In science, some things can be tested and proven (no generalizations! some things are impossible to test), where in philosophy and religion a lot of things are people discussing and then forming opinions, with varying amounts of proof to back it up.
Hmmmmmm.....philosophy's more like the bigger picture....
General S, What you are referring to are Agnostics, and yes, I do take the Bible literally when it needs to be taken literally. Obviously, Prophecy (Think Revelation, Zachariah, etc.) and Parables (of the Mustard Seed, the Good Samaritian, the Prodigal Son, etc.) are to be taken figurativly, but anything that is to be taken as Historical information must be taken as so.
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
Hey people,
This is a really thought provoking question...there are so many things to consider before answering! I think that the first thing that can be said about philosophy, religion, and science is that they are definitely closely tied together. They all affect each other, as well as the opinions of other people. For example, if you had a certain philosophical belief before you chose a religion, your philosophical belief would greatly affect the beliefs of the religion which you would choose. It would also affect your opinions of various scientific facts and studies.
On the other hand, if you had a certain religion before you began considering a philosophical subject or piece of scientific information, then your opinion would be influenced as well. The same thing, therefore, would happen if you had studied the sciences before considering philosophy or religion.
After considering this, I believe that if you study any one of these three topics before the other, your opinion would have to be somewhat biased. It all depends on how you gather information on these subjects.
Nowadays, I honestly don't know if philosophy, science and religion are still as closely related as they used to be. As general s said at the beginning, they have slowly begun to brake apart over the years.
They indeed began to seperate over time, and different branches of science, religion and pilosophy have became more distinct as different opinins are added. I'm not a God believer, because religion has been used as a tool to understand the unknowables, and reasons that are unprecievable by senses, which there will be no prove of.
Yes, the three seem to have broken apart over the years, and they are constantly arguing over who is right. However, I feel science, philosophy and religion are kind of the same, because each of them are based on ideas,(not all ideas are solid facts though...)
I don't think I agree or disagree....I'll think about that!
I think that all three have a lot to do with one another. They are all based on Ideas, which micht be proven wrong at any time (correct me if I'm wrong) because no one actually knows what we haven't discovered, and if there might be another answer, we don't know about it yet, so we don't know whether we are right or wrong. Is there such a thing as right and wrong in philosohy and religion? what about science?
verytrue.
There are of course right or wrong in religion, and science, but more or less in philosophy. I'd say that science is the right wing and religion is the left wing, in which right is percieved by senses and left is percieved by faith, and philosophy would fall in the middle.
religion-----philosophy-----science
Hmmm...your comment sounds quite reasonable...although I see nothing wrong with my religion, but I do see some wrong things in philosophy and science.
If there is a correct, then no other reason/solution/explanation can also be correct. Like 2+2 only equals 4, there can be only one answer to how the world was created, why life exists, etc., etc. This is also situational- there can be only one belief or opinion that will be correct.
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
Philosophy, religion and science are all reasons for something. They are to explain something better or more thoroughly.
Philosophy is based mostly on reason, religion is based on the ignorance of something, and science is based on fact.
The three of these things can not coincide because they are all reasons for something. Each one has a different reason to explain something. For example: rain falls from the sky because Zeus says so, or because water vapour condenses and drops due to gravity, or because the plants "need" the water. They are all completely different reasons for something to exist, and they do not coincide.
Zeus Doesn't Control the Rain. One of his wives of nature does.
How is religion, or at least ALL religion, based on ignorance?
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
Yeah.....
If you say there is only one truth and one reason why this world exist, you are really saying there is only one that's right between science, religion and philosophy, because they hold different believes on the origins of the world. Though 2+2=4, the answer to the question "What's your favourite colour?" differs greatly, it all depends on the type of the question it is. And when you considered all the variables, the answer to the origin of the world seems highly impossible.
There's always going to be a wrong, and a right. The opinions might not neccassarily be right, but thre probably does exist an answer to every question-no matter how bizzare or verrry deeeeeeeeeeep. The thing is that we need not to desrciminate one another just because we may not agree on the same religion, scientific theories, and philosophical opinions. It unfortunately happens a lot in our world.
That's true, but that's also apart of human nature.
Before humans could prove the right answer, it's useless saying this answer even exist at all.
I disagree on it the fact. there may be an answer to everything, but some you might never find. For example is there a god and if there is what made him? Nobody is ever going to answer that with proof. But maybe there is an answer
Opinions and truths are different. One has an opinion about the truth. Also, a truth has a difinitive, an opinion-oriented question is meant to yield varied results.
General S.... Do not discredit a mystery or an unknown. If it can be known, there is always a chance it will be.
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
I agree...and there are ways to prove many answers...even ones that seem impossible...like the existance of God. Also, there are some things, which are well...obvious. I mean, I have always somehow felt the existance of God over me...eversince I was young. Mostly it's comforting, but it can get frightening if you committed a sin or something.
May be there are such things you called "proof", but they have other reasons to be there. You feel guilty when you commit a sin is because you are forcing yourself not to make this mistake again. On a scientist's point of view, I could only believe in God when I see God with my own eyes
May you pleas define your idea of proof... please go ahead. From what i understand your comment makes no sense
I'm not trying to be mean
Maybe, on a religious point of veiw, a bit of god is inside of us, like the devil on one sholder, and an angel on the other. Like he wants us to make the right desision.
Yes....I talked about the two angels on our shoulders yesterday....me and my friend were into talking about ghosts and supernaturals, and how babies come from heaven and how they forget God after awhile. How, this is really not where we belong...
This is a true story: My friend's teacher's friend had moved into a new house and had 2 kids: one a newborn and one only 3. She separated their rooms in fear that he'd attack the newborn baby. One night the three=year old tip toed into the newborn's room. The mom watched him closely spying on him. The little 3-year-old boy went up to the newborn and said: "Tell me about God;I'm starting to forget.
Can you imagine a 3-year old saying that???
q squared I understand what u are trying to say...but isn't the whole world the biggest proof of the existance of God? It's confusing isn't it...I think that perhaps all people have these questions at some points in their life. Last night I had this chaotic explosion about life. I kept asking myself, what is the point of life?
There really is a point...that's what philosophy investigates, science proves, and religion teaches. I felt really sad for this famous Iranian actress who died at age 34 this year,;she was in a coma for 8 months after having a car accident. She died months ago, but last night while we 4 out of 5 of my family members(including me,) were watching Narges, the most popular TV show in Iran that contained 90 episodes, (in our satellite we're at episode 36,) it showed Poopka Goldarreh's scene at the end of the 35th episode. It was slow motion and everything and we all wanted to cry. She was such a pure-hearted and talented actress;such a pity to die in the most important part of her career!
Anyhow, for the rest of the episodes they replced her with another actress that looks alike. At the end of the 35th episode the director came and talked along with Poopak's mom, and other actresses and actors that had memories of her. They also interviewed the replacing actress. This Tv show was the most exciting suspensful TV show in Iran, and it got put on TV after Poopak's death. I just kept thinking to myself...was her death really an accident of life, or was it in her fate? She died at such a dramatic point in her life...if she were alive, she'd be the most famous actress in Iran now. Why did she have to die so soon...so young?
Questions that will never be answered.
What makes life worth living? This question was asked by Dr. Crusher of the USS Enterprise. The answer is to enjoy the many things in this world. The existence of this world doesn't prove the existence of God. The world might as well be created some other way. That's why there is faith-the believe of something that can't be proved. As for "prove", I meant the feeling that God existed. The reason that I don't believe in God, is because I don't want to just settle for the idea: This world existed because God created it. I want to discover a more convicing reason that this world existed for. A reason that is scientifically based. I put my faith in this reason. Since it is only faith, I could not prove it right, neither could I prove that God did not exist. This conversation is more or less opinion based.
People who beleive in God don't just settle for the idea either. (most of them anyways.)
Also, you take joyin beleiving in God. Also...what do u mean...scientifically based? I beleve in God...and I think God created all science and nature.
But-your are exactly right! It is very opinion based, but one must consider the opinions of others as well. I considered your just so you know=:)
U.S.S. Enterprise-D, to be exact. You may alos remember the TNG movie Nemisis discusses somewhat similar topics of what life is about and what it means to be human.
On the note of Q Squared: Not trying to enforce religion (never do that... one of the worst things to do,) but do you know of a doubting Thomas?
In accordance to Sapphire_Turquoise, if you believe in God (which it is clear that you do,) than you will know that whatever happens is ultimately done in fulfilling God's purpose. So, why did she have to die so young? Watch and Wait, and I think that maybe the questions that need answering will be so.
It is only nature for curiosity to be an overriding concern for a person, to want to know the truth, to want the why, and, being myself, that is probably one of my stronger traits. Sometimes, however, "When you rule out the impossible, the only remaining answer, no matter how improbable, must be the correct one." I believe the quote goes something to the effect. I think my one post sort of proved how some things can't explain the exsistence of life, and, so, no matter how "unrealistic" or "unconvincing" something may be, it just might be the only answer. At least, that's my rationale for part of my faith. This would again come back to how Science, Philosophy and Religion all tie together. Science is the understanding of physical realms; Religion fill in the blanks that Science cannot describe, and Philosophy looks at both and comes to logical conclusions about what material is given.
From my religious-based beliefs, I have to say the purpose in living is to exalt God, because he created us for that perpose, and so that we can gain joy through that, as Sapphire_Turquoise has mentioned.
Anyhow, it's getting into the evening, and so I must go and read Shakespeare... very gripping when in original Klingon!
taH pagh taHbe'. DaH mu'tlheghvam vIqelnIS. quv'a', yabDaq San vaQ cha, pu' je SIQDI'? pagh, Seng bIQ'a'Hey SuvmeH nuHmey SuqDI', 'ej, Suvmo', rInmoHDI'?
To Be Or Not To Be, That is the Question!
Okay then...
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
That is the difficult question, and sometimes it really makes you feel hopeless...like what's the point of life? I think when you have many dreams...many goals...it gives you the hope to move on, to live. Some people look at life so negatively without meaning to...like I know people who were very upset when they turned 30, becuase they considered themselves halfway through, becuase they think 60 years old is the average of most humans. I then aks myself-how do they continue living if they think like that? How do young people who have a dangerous sickness live when always living in fear of dying?
I'm really searching for the meaning of life...not just how the world came to exist.
Can we reach the meaning of life through science, philosophy, or religion? I think through all 3. How could you reach the meaning without knowing the scientific theories-the laws of nature? How could you reach the meaning without learning about some philosophical opinions? How could you reach the meaning without having some religion to teach you more...to aid you into living a better life?
I think to figure out the meaning of life you have to take little steps, and like Saphire said, combine all 3. The first step, I think, is what does everybody want. Happiness. Everybody wants to be happy, or get their way shown through everything they do. Why do people go to school? So they can get a job. If not that, to learn, and to enjoy learning. Why do people get a job? To make money. Why do people want money? So they can buy stuff that they think will make them happy. Why do some people kill others? I don't know from experince, but I think propbably because they think the world will be better without them, or to take out anger or something, and by doing so, they think they will become happy. Just ask yourself any question as to why somebody does something, and though a string of questions, or just one, you'll find because they want to be happy.
People do wrong things in order to reach happiness...really they're reaching sadness and misery...
Perhaps it's because they walked through the wrong road...they took the wrong way...they were mislead...they misunderstood life...its factors...
Does science, philosophy, nd religion help a person? It deoends on one's opnions and ways of approach. Thre are many people who calim to follow a specific religion but they commit horrendous acts-not becuase the religion told them to.
I don't remember it being spoken in Nemisis, but that doesn't affect the answer. I believe the answer is happiness like tweddle-dee said. Religion suppose to help people to live a happy life, but since many wars started as religious conflicts, I don't think religion served its purpose right.
People didn't act right-not religion.
It's completely wrong to fight and have war over religion.
Do any of these three teach people how to manage their time?
It's 12:21 AM and my eyes are bulging out of theri sockets.
Good night....zzzzzzzzzzzzz
It wasn't directly quoted, but it is Picard's struggle over being cloned (maybe it is covered more in the deleted scenes) and fully encompassed by Data's jaunt about Aspiration.
Interpretation is a very dangerous thing sometimes, and that is how war starts. Sometimes religious factions are opposed just because one doesn't like the other for no particular reason, for an excuse (think Irish Civil War,) or for the "purification" of the land or world (think holocaust or The Israeli-Pakistinean War.)
Perhaps it is easier to say that religion fulfills its purpose, but we don't see that purpose properly, and use it destructively as opposed to the constructivity it should have about it. After all, don't most religions premote peace, unity, well-being? The golden rule? Very few (outside of cults) favor separation adn dissentry. War starts uually when one group see the other as misinterpreting the same thing, or opposed to an entire different relgion as being completely wrong. Although, some peril is ofter prophecised (Spell check, please) in relgious books, but often for a greater good (think Revelation.)
As for amaging time... maybe not directly, but perhaps wisdom may relate to that.. use your time wisely. Or maybe we have to think of that ourselves: "The future is only as good as you make it, so make it a good one!"
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
P.S.: Please excuse wierdness of Shakespearean post... I don't age well in the evenings.
How to manage time why yes they do. If you look deep enough you can find anything
Very true. For both comments.
I don't think you have a proper Shakespear in Klingon, or else it's a cheap one.(I tried to look up all the Klingons, but none matched).
Yeah, I guess religious conflicts are not what religions meant, but I still can't accept the fact that there are so many religions in this world. Do they believe in the same God? If they don't then who believed in the right God? That's of course how the conflicts started at the first place.
What's the universal truth? We craved for it for as long as the concept exist, but who knows if we will ever find it, or has it already been found?
Here's how I think of it, religion, science, and philosphy are all people trying to figure out how th worlds works but religion and science both try to offer a way to make your head stop spinning by providing some kind of answer while philosophy is more the view that says your head should spin we can't understand some of these things yet, maybe never, thats why we ask. I think that's why religion and science but heads so much with each other because they each feel trhreatened.
What do you mean cheap? Are you calling my Klingonese a fraud? :) Okay... I guess I should explain... Watch Star Trek VI: The Undiscovered Country. By far one of my favorites, the bad guy and anti-peace war mongrel, General Chang (Christopher Plummer) is quite fond of Shakespeare, which he tells Kirk is particularly good in "original Klingon." He then constantly quotes such ("'Cry Havoc!' And Let slip the Dogs of War,") until Kirk quips that someone should shut him up. As for the text... um... I found that off of a resource that I can't remember now, but if you have the DVD with subtitles I think it's the famous "To Be or Not to Be" segment.
Okay... off topic...
It's kind of hard to believe that there are so many religions; however, that is because it great countries were once isolated colonies that develpoed their own myths, legends, and beliefs. Of course, only one relgion is true, which is very troubling, because look at how many there are... and it would be very difficult indeed to get everyone to try and believe the same thing, so it is an even more saddening thing that many people won't accept- not know- but accept truth.
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
There are as many ways to reach the truth-to reach God, the reason as the number of people existing in the world. It may not matter what religion they have. Not all muslims go to heavan. Not all Christians go to Heavan...and so on.....
I'm sure God acceots varieties.
But than...do u beleive in God? Should you beleive in God? How about after life? If after life existed(which I beleive in strongly,) than what would happen to those who didn't beleive in after life? Who goes to heavan? Hell? Is it fair? Did the people get equal chances to be good? What if their parents were evil and didn't introduce them to any religion at all?
What if you didn't beleive in after life? Didn't have a religion?
I'm positive that people do have some freedom to change their given faith. How many of you beleive in faith? I'm sure that people who don't have a religion have an equal chance of going to heavan. Remember...this is my opinion...you don't need to beleive in after life. After all, I can't really say how others get judged. It's very complicated I've heard. You can enter heavan by doing one single good thing that just erased your bad deeds.
Anyhow...enough of that...
I don't think that people who beleive in the wrong truth neccassarily lose the game of life. Also...one shouldn't think that all other religions are wrong. Many, many, share the same view points and basic rules.
c y'all
P.S. I wish u a great time general S!
"Also...one shouldn't think that all other religions are wrong."--If there is going to be one, and only one truth, how is other religion right when only one is right?
Heeeeeey buddies,
Adnan is being extremely difficult right now...he's trying to influence my opinions before I can record them so I have to STOP IT ADNAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! As I was GOING to say, I have to write fast GAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ANYwho, I think this conversation has definitely gotten off topic...it started out as a well-meaning discussion about the relationships between religion, philosophy, and science...and now craig's speaking in klingon:O
By the way, does anyone know if Kayla has been on lately? She said she would post more comments when she came to visit...shame, double shame:(
Not many are entirely sure what the real truth is...well even if you are sure(like me,) you should know that other religions consists parts of the truth. Not only that, but you shouldn't really rthink there's only true answer. Why should there be? Can't it be one GIGANTIC answer which contains many religions in it???!!!
Also, one should respect other people's religions, meaning to not think that their religion's ridiculous , and try to think positively about other culture. We have the power to cut selfish and negative thoughts. One shouldn't think they're a know-it-all-even if they are pretty happy with their religion. That religion is great for you-not neccassarily for all.
I don't believe Kaylas has been on.
We are most definatley allowed to get off topic. It may be good. After all, the 'boards are doing their job- stemming conversation. And it is somewhat related... if the conversation relates to any of the key nouns in the post, then I think it is acceptable.
Oh, off topic... Tuesday denizens, who was that person you were interested in knowing in whether or not we knew them? I have a hunch I finally know who it is, but could you please tell me the name again?
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
Ho, hum...I reasearched it on google. Gave me a bunch of goofy answers, but I think I shall share one with you. (I don't really agree with it however...) "The differnece between religion and science is simple. They are like man and woman. A man is like science, based solidly on facts to make his body and appearance.(?)A woman is like religion, made up of ideas based alitle on the man. Same bodily funtions, but with 'extras'.(Grrr...Extras, bah! Who is to say man isn't MISSING those "extras".)
Do you mean you know who "peace
_love_put_on_a_smile" is? I'm pretty desperate to know this person is. Anyway, how can there be a truth that proves every religion right? Religions have disagreed with one another in many ways, or else there won't be multireligions in this world. But holdon a second, I don't totally disagree with you, I think there could be a universal truth in which every believe even scientific believes is right, but it is so simple that we don't recongnize it as a truth.
Women aren't based on man!!!!!! That's a horrible atatement from google...some bodily functions...
And no....it shouldn't say a women has extras and men don't...
Science and religion and philosophy SHOULD NOT be compared to the difference between the two genders!
Thanks for the comment...
I G2G NOW!
Man and Woman... what a bright idea! (NOT!)
The descriptions given of man and woman given i nthis case could apply to either gender and are highly situational. I alos must leave.
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
P.S.: Expect longer posts in he future.
I don't understand the comment of Google. Why is religion based on science? They are totally independent of each other. Why is women based on men? That's generalization again. And of course, the difference between religion and science is not so simple as it seems. I wonder what the person quaoting that was thinking.
Yes...yes...i must go now!
The quote is very very disrespectful...
(I wish I could sleep on time for once!!!!)
What is live what is time? Are they endless abyss, or a sphere?
By the way, "life" is not spelled "live".
Who has finished Sophie's World???
MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
sorry about that
sorry about that
ABCDEFGHIJKLMNOPQRSTUVWXYZ
Practicing my alphabet
<.<
Okaaaaaaaaaaaaaay!!!!
lol.
Why did u practice your alphabet all of a sudden anyways? Does it have anything to do with philosophy????
I guess a philosopher who type very fast in better than a philosopher who type very slow, philosophically.
Hmmmmm.....I don't think so...one should take their time....
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