Generosity
What a wonderful week we have had in our Gr. 8 classes at McQuarrie! I have been amazed and touched by the generosity, compassion and selflessness demonstrated by all of you this week. I thought you'd be interested to know that between the two classes, close to $300 was raised for World Vision, giving us the funds to purchase TWO goats, a rooster and two chickens, and a generous supply of antibiotics for children. It was an amazing feeling to make these purchasing decisions together and watch as our orders were submitted and sent online. I hope that all of you will think back to this occasionally over the holidays as we all enjoy this season of gift giving and celebrating. You have indeed given some other families cause to celebrate as well! I am so proud of you.
This evening, I received an e-mail from World Vision - I wanted to share it with all of you - I have included an excerpt here....
December 13, 2006
Dear Ms Watt,
Thank you for your life-changing gifts of Goat and Antibiotics from World Vision's Gift Catalogue! Your gifts will be a blessing to children and families in need, and a truly meaningful way to celebrate the promise of hope and new life.
Thank you for giving the gift of hope to the world's most needy children.
Sincerely,
Dave Toycen
President, World Vision Canada
Thank you also for the time, thought and effort put into the Secret Santa clues and gifts we exchanged with one another. I really enjoyed it! Thanks also for the many words of gratitude that were expressed to Matt after his presentation and lessons - I know he appreciated it and so did I.
Have a wonderful holiday everyone! You deserve the best! Check back here once in a while.....I'll be in touch!
posted by Ms Watt @ 9:35 PM
102 Comments:
Ms.Watt, the students of Mc'Quarrie truly are amazing generous people, but you should know that our leader is you, YOU are the one that introduced world vision to us and let us have secret santa! I think that many of us will grow up to do many wonderful things that influence our world in a positive way...I'm sure none of would ever forget you...becuase it was you who taught us so much and inspired us to do those things that we'll do in the near future...so if you complimented us, than we have the right to compliment you 1000 times more!
I have to say I am proud of you like I would of family! You guys did what McQuarrie is here for and set an example for what we all should do! And so I bless you with a thousand Scottish blessings! And I can see great things be held in the eyes of each of you (as someone once said, the future will be better tomorrow... whatever.) I thin kMs. Watt deserves to be proud of you too, and we all need not to forget what she did for us- so Lang Mae Yer Lum Reek!
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
McQuarrie is really amazing!!Students and teachers.
What an experience to be in MCQ. I felt very proud to do something for this world, because I felt that I deserved to live. So should everyone of you that have been doing something good for this world. Especially you, Ms. Watt, it is you who encouraged us and gave us this wonderful opportunity. At the same time, I felt the burden of encouraging other people fell on me. It's great that MCQ opened the world for us, and now we have to open the world for others. Isn't the whole point of MCQ?
MCQ IS THE BEST!!!!!!!! SO IS MS.WATT!!!! AND HER SON'S VIDEO WAS AWESOME!
The video is very good, the actor screamed well when he was being pushed down the hill. There are lots of those coincidents in real life, they are kind of creapy if you think about them. And they arise the question: Do spirits exist?
We don't stick around once we're dead, if that's what you mean. I believe that we have angels and demons and a Holy Ghost, but no other invisible creatures.
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
I beleive ghosts and spirits do exists! My beleif is kind of like craig's though.
We are going into opinions and believes again! I just asked if coincidents are or aren't delivered by spirits. Angels, demons, ghosts, dead people, and stuff like that. I sort of believe that they are not. There is a very small chance of happening, doesn't mean there isn't a chance of happening. That's one of the theories of quantum mechanics.
I received a phone call from World Vision this morning, expressing very sincere thanks for our generous donations. They also indicated that they will be sending us some sort of information package in the new year. We had a very nice conversation - I have to admit that I was surprised to receive this 'personal' call - it was very nice of them to do this! I thought I'd share.....
(oh, yes, and I agree that the 'spirits' debate might more appropriately be held elsewhere......)
They called you?!?! That's sooooooo cooool!
If anything, we've mastered off-topicness.
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
Alright, let's debate somewhere else. I just found a blog of a person who went to Togo. It really gave me an experience of what African countries are like, and how generous it was to help them. The blog address is: aaroninafrica.blogspot.com
Now I just wish that everyone could do what we did. Then the world will achieve peace.
No No No it won't
Hi general s!
Yes it will acheive peace!
Yeah, maybe you are right on that. Violence is also what makes us human instead of thinking machines. There will always be discrimmination going on no matter what we do, but we have to lower the chance of it happening.
No way! Violence does not make us human. No time to explain.
Hey q squared: I finally visited the link u gave-about helping in Africa. It was awesome!
The videos were amazing and gave you a better idea of what Africa is like! The story of the little black girl and white skin was beautiful! How lucky that person is to e there...helping them....did u see the school?
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How does giving money reduce violence... honestly
It does! I know...it's surprising...but think about it general s! One of the main causes for violence money!!!!!!!
People fiht for meoney and profit and goods and things like that. If everybody had the same amount of money maye there wouldn't be so much war now would there? Unless theywanted to have more...people always want more! Isn't it ever so frustrating?!
*fight
*money
*they wanted
if there was an equal balance of money, there would be more competition to get the money.
An equal balance of money only exist in an idealistic socialism point of view. Even if everyone have the same amount of money, they would spend more or less according to their personal needs. Violence does come from the desire for more, and one of the main desire is wealth.
Like I have said somewhere else before, peace could not exist without war. So I wonder, does wealth exist without poverty and hunger?
Violence is an attempt to expand your power- and thus wealth- in the universe. I will also say to General S that peace is inadvertable, albeit far-off. We as a society are only beginning to see the consiquences of what we do. The seeds must be sown now. By saying that peace will never happen is giving up on the future and the world- if you believe that harmonious life is impossible, why are you living? Because it must come, and your efforts can do so. The world we want to live in can only be made if we mold it. Time is the fire in which we burn, and so, peace may not be instantanious, but we can see that dreams cannot be silenced, and actions in the right direction are never forgotten. And so what you do now will make the future what you want it to be. It may not be now. But it will be if you try to make it so.
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
Peace does exist without war!!! Peace is not the absence of war...it's a whole gigantic and powerful thing all by itself...it can come and cover war up or erase it off this universe!!! We need not to be so helpless...we must have hope...all of us people of this world...sometimes it's quite easy to feel hopelessly powerless, but we must not. I think we really can have peace if we're determined enough!
Peace does exist without war!!! Peace is not the absence of war...it's a whole gigantic and powerful thing all by itself...it can come and cover war up or erase it off this universe!!! We need not to be so helpless...we must have hope...all of us people of this world...sometimes it's quite easy to feel hopelessly powerless, but we must not. I think we really can have peace if we're determined enough!
I did not say some peace coexists with war, as it does. I meant globally cohesively, or, as in, total peace in all gazzilion countries.
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
How could peace exist without war? What is heaven if you have never experienced hell? Sapphire, everything is relative.
Well said Saphire!! I agree-peace is something on it's own, completely different than war. I think we need to get away from the mindset that peace is only the absence of war. Why can't peace be something we try to acheive in all places even if they are not "officially" at war? Just because My sisters and I are not fighting with each other does not mean we are at peace with one another! I think it is very difficult to define something as big as peace because it can take many different forms and mean different things to different people in different circumstances, but it should never be defined as only the absence of war it is sooo much more. And we must not loose hope, for although not having war is part of the battle, much more has to happen and it does!! Think of how huge things have happened in the past!! Who says we can't work towards this, even in our own lives??
i agree! I mean...it is hard to not imagine peace as the absence of war...but it's possible! War...is...ugh! It's should not be considered as something "natural", or an everyday factor of life. Peace should! War should be considered as...unusual and disgustingly unwelcome. And...it is true that many people who suffered like crzay in this world really experience heavan in a very refreshing and peaceful way after they die, but not all people beleive in afterlife. But know...I don't beleive heavan is the absence of hell...though I can't help but think of hell when I think of heavan!
Yes, I agree that peace is not the absense of war, but peace could not exist without war.
Returning to the original topic, I believe giving money is not enough, we have to think of more ways to help the people in need.
of course we should do more than give money,like to buy goats and stuff, sure it's important and a very good step, but that is just their physical needs, a person needs more than food and shelter to live a true life instead of a shadow of existence. they need a purpose, a home. we may not be able to give them that, as we are just discussing on a blog, but maybe if we think about it we could find a way.
ok that did not make a lot of sense, reading it. i just mean people need to feel loved and happy and not just fed. they need to feel a peace in their life, or really more like a purpose, a hope.
chick with brains I really agree with you...people need to feel welcomed and equal and happy deep down from inside. q squared...I'm really considering your 1st statement-beleive me!
ok i have to say something about this peace debate. YOUR ALL RIGHT!!! Peace is whatever you want it to be because it is something differant for everyone something from inside you that makes you happy and relaxed, with no need for an expanation. Personally i feel that is greater than the absence of war but i suppose some would take it for granted without feeling some pain. I guess i can't say for sure because we've all felt pain so we don't know what it would be like without it but we've felt the pain so let's find the peace.
Well said! Although...war should not be defined than pain...for pain is a natural part of life. War however...should not be considered as natural.
um, i think i understand what you said. But i sort of disagree. I think peace is the place where all that pain is no longer there. where we are happy. if you think about it most pain comes from humans, and when we are at our most peaceful, which to me is when we are happy and calm and having fun, we generally aren't feeling pain. so to me, pain does not have to exist in peace, but it can... but obviously it's better when it is not there. well that's my opinion anyway. yours makes a lot of sense to, because if we were always happy it wouldn't be so special, but i don't know that. So i can't really say whether it's really true or not. i just don't think it is. if that makes any sense at all.
Well...i guess it also depends on what kind of pain it is? I mean...due to my religious beleifs, I personally beleive that God(I beleive in God,) sometimes tests humans by giving them some problem to deal with. I really do not...do not...blieve that war is one of those tests. God does approve of war and killing one another. But...the thing is...what would be the point of life if...there were no challenges and perhaps obstacles? I really beleive that some hardships and challenges ARE a part of peace. I picture peace as the most easy and relaxingly calm way to live. But what is the most easy way to live? The quiestion is, how easy can life get??? Or...is peace based on the level of happiness in life...or the level of equality and harmony? Is peace just one person feeling awesome or all people feeling the same joy? Is peace about feeling no pain? Or is it about everybody bearing and dealing with the same level of hardship in life? I mean...my biggest problems in life are soooooooooooooo tiny compared to many others my age living in 3rd world countries or even homeless ones living in this same city! To me that is just not fair...and if this problem were to be fixed by us and others taking action I think we would be much closer to abtaining peace. Although peace is something much more.
I get the idea that most of this comes down to one question: What is peace??
First of all, I wonder who could clearly define peace and war. There are wars fought to achieve peace. Why is war so evil in everyone's mind? Perhaps death is only apart of life, and war is only apart of achieving peace. Think of it, our technology advanced because of the two world wars that was fought. War killed many people, but it also balanced the world's population. We only want peace because we saw what wars did to us. I emphasize again, peace could not exist without war.
Peace is only a feeling that humans created in the hope of something better than what they already have. I'm don't mean that it's wrong to do that.
ok...um sorry but i really disagree with you there q squared. I do not beleive peace is imagined and war is a neccesity. death and pain are part of life in a natural world but i really don't think killing each other over power is a must. it's been a constant and yes it has had it's benefits but could you imagine if we used ways other than guns, bombs and fear to get our point across, to achieve those benefits? personally i believe we would be much better off. i also believe in god, im a christian, not a catholic or a well known denomination but still a christian, i do think god tests us. i definately agree war is not how he tests us. that is how others achieve their means. in my belief small tests lead us to knowing ourselves better and being better people. but, to me, if war has to be, if we have no choice but to fight, kill and die, then it seems pointless to pretty much do anything helpful. but maybe i just don't understand. just to clear up my confusing mass of words, im trying to say that i think that even if we have to be tested to be good, we don't have to test other people, and that if no one ever tried to start a fight no one would ever have to fight back. maybe we can change our world. but not if we don't have a hope. but i do have a hope, and by the sounds of it so do many of you, so i think peace is real, it's huge and it's beautiful, i do not personally believe that we are all just daydreaming.
What happens when we finally achieved peace? What do we do then? What is there to do after the world had been perfact? We are always so fond of this beautiful world, but it is also boring.
I am one of faith and thus this is what I believe: Being relative is relative to itself. Or, some things cannot be relative. It is my belief that God created a sinless world until humanity was succumbed by temptation, and thus we have evils. God's world he created was in harmonious peace, and sin caused war and warring. Peace is not imagined or idealistic, and war only exists because of our folly, which we can deal with. Also, as in Heaven and Hell, Heaven IS without Hell. Lucifer was God's right-hand angel whose lust for pwer caused God to drive him out (along with his followers, other fallen angels) to become the devil and his demons, and thus created Hell, which will be eventually destroyed. Thus, Heaven existed BEFORE Hell, and thus that is not relative.
Also, how would you know that peace is boring? Why des conflict make life interesting? Does it have to? No. How you not found that you look at your life and only wish to remember the joyous occasions? Did those occasions have conflict within them? We have not lived in total peace, so don't write it off as boring.
Rocking On,
Postman Craig
P.S. Chick with Brains, what do you consider a non-well-known denomination?
q squared, im not completely sure im understanding you. if peace is boring and conflict is interesting does that mean that we must kill for fun and that such death for entertainment is not only okay but neccesary? i disagree. i think their are others ways to have fun, even if it is killing in a videogame it is not real people. also i don't think peace is boring nor that a perfect world would be such. if the world was truly perfect than a source of entertainment would be there, no? also, seeing as none of us have killed anybody (i hope) and none of us have been under threat of death (also hope) and none of us have died (definatly hope) and yet we are not bored out of our minds constantly, that there must clearly be other ways to enjoy ourselves? i believe so anyway.
p.s. i consider the new apostolic church, where i go, to be a non-well-known denomintaion because it's not exactly a household name, even though it is great organization/denomination/church thing.
WOW!!!! I've been so busy lately but I just couldn't help but visit this awesome blog at 12:01 AM!!!! What amazingly awesome and deeeeep comments! I must say...I agree with all of u to an extent and in different ways. I'm really slepp at the moment so I won't go into what I think of peace and war or anything but I just wanted to say that I definetly do not think that q squared meant that war and killing are fun and interesting. NO WAAAY! I think she meant something totally different! BUT, I am going to say that due to religious beleifs...I beleive that heaven did exist before hell, BUT not all people beleive in that...so yeah...I don't mean you should beleive in that too! Also...I really don't think that our ideal perfect world is boring but it really depends on what you picture your perfet world as! I mean...like chick with brains said...I think God would still test us in a perfect world-so it wouldn't be boring and there'd be loads of fun when u hang out with friends and stuff.I also believe that peace is not achieved by war at all! No no no. Thre may be peace at the end of a war...but was it worth the killing!???? Anyhow I just agree with all of you to different extents. I also think I know what q squared means by boring but that really depends on how one pictures that peaceful world! I also totally think I understand what she says about war and stuff.
*****one reminder: Please consider each others opinions and know that this discussion is not about the people in it but about the ideas and opinions coming forward! And also...keep the respect! This discussion has been getting very hot although I think no one has been disrespected at all hopefully=:) So...keep this up! Luuuuv reading ur comments! U people give loads of food for thought! I miss u all!!!
You got it Sapphire, this discussion is about different opinions, perhaps there is right and wrong. No, killing is not fun and interesting, especially killing our own species. I was just saying that wars might not be as evil as you think. I do hold a different "perfact world" theory. In my perfact world, there are no obstacles or challenges. Everyone loves each other, everyone smiles like an andriod. It'll be the highest point of human revolution. There is no more to change about, because everything is perfact.
I would really like to hear about other perfact world theories.
That is impossible isn't a perfect world competition fighting to stay on top. Not war fighting but working hard to maintain your place in society. What is wrong with that. What your thinking of is a utopia. If possible still wouldn't work.
okay first of all i'd like to say if i offended anyone im truly sorry. i didn't mean it. q squared i didn't actually mean i thought you think war is fun or anything, just that if the perfection is boring, than it's war is a little scarier, because we can't stop it. to me the perfect world is can obstacles maybe, just everyone is always happy, to me that is perfect. not cheesy happy, but truly happy. personally i don't believe much in the idea that humanity is evolving to better people because i don't think the killing that goes on now is any worse or better than the killing and harming 20 years ago, or a thousand years ago. i think more that individuals are getting better. i hope we can all be a little better. than we could all be happy, and even if something is difficult, we don't complain, we're happy anyway. we don't need to kill to gain power or money or anything, because we're quite happy without it. so that's sort of my idea of the perfect peaceful world.
p.s. we should probably stop mentioning our religions because it's a public school site.
In my opinion, violence is only neccassary when it is used in defence. I mean, people can stand still and wait for their death when another country attacks! BUT, I really just see war as WRONG when it is done to maintain your place in society. ESPECAILLY when it's done to make your place BIGGER than it already is.
Also, peace isn't just about no war. It's more than that.
General S, that's what I mean, a perfact world does not exist! Sapphire, you are right. Violence should only be used in defence, but sometimes the matter is not so easy. For most of the wars fought, the invaders usually have a good reason.(usually, that is). There are always two side of opinoins, and it defends on which one you believe.
No no no no...invaders never have a good reason...they're just selfish creatures! And a perfect world can exist...it depends on how perfect you want it to be really!
i sort of agree with both of you. sapphire, i agree that violence for defense, can be okay, even honourable, i suppose, especially when defending others. and invading for personal selfish reasons is for sure shameful. but is also agree with general s that sometimes invaders have more than a selfish reason. like the head of state is abusing the people, or is putting people is danger, although i suppose that that is defense of other people. either way i don't think that peace is impossible,. it's obtainable, just the problem is getting others to follow. greed is a major issue in society. so im unsure if we could really have a perfect world, also because 'perfect' is differant for everyone
What if they don't have a selfish reason for war but kill innocent people of a country anyways just becuase they can't reach an agreement with the monster of a president of the country? Like when Saddam was the president of Iraq and they attacked Iraq and killed so many innocent people for no reason?
What is right is what you believe!
Are you saying what the USA is doing in Iraq is worng. They are defending the people of Iraq. They are going to stay there for those people until Iraq has a stable government. Is that wrong is it. Honestly do you know what you are talking about. The USA troops aren't there for there own gain there nationbuilding. That is something the UN does. Are you no saying what the UN does is wrong now. What the US is doing is almost the same as the UN. If that isn't rihght I don't know what is.
All the US is doing is nation building. Waiting until there is a stable government in Iraq. I want to know is that wrong. huh huh. Come on. This is pathetic. If we pulled out the usa troops right now do you know how many people would die.
Please general s, I never said any of the things that you said right now! I also don't beleive that what the UN does is always right! No way! Also, I never said the US protecting the Iraqis is wrong! BUT, I did however mean that they HAVE killed innocent people and even women and children before! And maybe they still do! And yes part of the reason the troops are in Iraq, is perhaps because they gain something from it too! =:l
what do they gain from going to iraq. some say oil, well no, some say honour, it doesen't look like people are honouring them, money, they lose 6 billion dollars a week. they are doing a it out of pure generosity. Some say the USA cannot win this war. you are right you can't only the Iraqis can win this war but really the USA are winning when Iraq finds a stable government. THey are winning when it is safe for those civilians to walk out on those streets and do there normal activities. Truth be told the americans are winning everyday. Although some troops are dying. They sacrificed there lives for hundreds of other peoples lives. Stay in there America. Stay in there
wow. that sounded a little personal, i'm sure sapphire is not implying that the u.s. is evil. nor what their doing is wrong. just that innocent lives are being hurt by both sides. including all the good soldiers, who bravely put their lives in danger. i don't think the americans are selfishly staying in iraq, because they quite critizied. but that doesn't mean that people are being hurt who wouldn't have if the war was never started. or that some are saved. but it is important to stand up for other countries, like canada is standing up afghanistan.
Excactly! I really did not mean that the US is evil but I don't think that ALL of the Iraqis neccassarily worship the Americans either! Perhaps many of them do, but not all of them!
The US will win the war if they find a stable gov't and finally do something good for the people of Iraq. But so far the war is not leading to anything peaceful. I predict a WW3 comming if the US keeps on like this. China and Russia are friends of the middle east. They will do anything to stop US from attacking another middle east country, even if it meant the death of many more.
The US are protecting Iraqis from whom? Their first reason of war with Iraq was for nuclear weapons, but there wasn't any found. Clearly, the US was hiding something. If you look closer at our next door neighbour, their economy is going down. Yet Iraq is a major oil producer. I see some relationships here.
Well said!!! Also, this is not neccassarily about the US being evil or not...it's about what Iraq and the US will gain, lose, and how they will compromise if they ever do!
USA is protecting the Iraqi people. Just pretend that the US troops were out of Iraq. Do you know how many people would die. I say at least double the numbers. maybe even more. You say who they are protecting them from. EACHOTHER. The crazy ones. And you say they are in there for oil. YOu are wrong. They have more than enough oil in there country alone. what is going into Iraq going to do. Honestly people. I never said you think the USA is evil. But you are all against the war. Yes Americans are dying. But they sacrificed themselves. if they weren't there maybe that one live would be 3 lives or 4 lives. Some say 20 lives. Now do you people get it. Before you start running your mouth take a second to learn a little about what actually is going on. Please
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Read Empire LIte by: Micheal Ignatieff good book. though strange man
My entire point of view in that book right there. THat is why he should have won the Liberal Leadership.
Um...I really don't know what to say except for the fact that not all of the Iraqis, and not the crazy ones, are thankful for the Americans to be there. I just wish I could be there and see what really is happening....I'm sorry...but I don't know why I just can't beleive what u said in your comment about USA protecting the Iraqis. Sure, that's part of what they're doing, but r u sure that they haven't actually killed innocent people there???!!!
You don't have to agree with the war, but try and understand what the Army is doing. They are acting as a defence for the Iraqi citizens. Right now in Iraq it is unsafe to wander the streets. The USA troops job is to make it safe for those innocent people you always talk about to lead a normal life. I am not supporting Saddam Hussein here but under his rule it was safe to walk on those streets. Everybody lead a normal life. Since his defeat the streets are unsafe because of Ba'athists loyaltists. The people who still support SAddam. Once Iraq has a nice safe democratic government and it is safe to walk in those streets. Then you will support the war. Then you will see why the USA were in this war. I don't know if this is what Bush planned for the war to be like. Probably he didn't maybe he did go in Iraq for some selfish reason. But that isn't what matters. it is what the war turned out to be. That is why I support the war in Iraq that is why I think the US trooops need to stay in Iraq until it is safe for those innocent people to walk the streets. Until those innocent people can lead a normal life for them and their families. SO you do not have to support this war . You probably will never support this war but please understand what the US troops have done for IRaq. Thank you. for reading this Thank you.
Hmmmmm...well...I'm not totally against it...I have mixed feelings...but I sill hate war. And I know why ur supporting the war and do not think u r unwise for supporting it at all. I really don't know what's wise at the moment. I'm thinking and considering many different view points at the moment!
Sometimes you need war to maintain peace. You all hate war so much. I bet death is the main reasaon. Am I correct? well if the usa troops weren't there that death total would be higher. Saddam Hussein would still be in power. Perhaps back at war with KUwait. Perhaps... perhaps... See if the americans were not there then I do not know what the world would be like. That is why you need war in this world. I am not a big supporter of war but this war is neccesary.
Of coarse, I'm very glad that Saddam is no longer in power, but was war neccassary? I mean, all they had to do was catch Saddam, not take over the country and kill its people!!! You are right, some wars are needed to maintain peace...but only if no normal people get killed. I mean, why do they enjoy bombing cities where people live???!!! By "they" I mean any country.
And death is not the only bad thing about war. People get tortured. They wish for death. So when they die, you know...they actually feel happy, the really hopeless ones I mean.
And I'm not sure if this war is not neccassary...I don't think it's neccassary at all. At least, it could be carried out in a less harmful fashion.
This war was totally unneccassary. If the US never defeated Saddam in the first place, they wouldn't have to "protect" the Iraqi people. War is not the way to do things. You don't just bite when you have the ability to talk. To kill Saddam, how many bullets do you need? If the objective of this war was to kill (or should I say remove) Saddam, Bush should send a secret troop in instead of waging a war oversea.
To Remove:
Hitler= war
Mussolini=war
Communism= war
Slavery= war
Genocide= war
Castro= war
Sadddam Hussein= war
Terrorism= war
Are these not okay. I can keep on neaming them if you want
Ok guys, ALL THE PEOPLE FROM THE TUESDAY CLASS...LAST YEAR!! I, finally, updated our blog so go visit it becuase tweedle dee and sapphire are the only people who have been commenting on it so yea, go take a look, even the wednesday kids, go ahead, even the kids who arent even in mcq anymore, like postman craig, go ahead, anyways I think it's awesome what we did for World Vision, we do that with my church too, we got enough to provide school supplies for like 50 kids or something like that once. Anways ttyl
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I agree with q squared totally. General s, yes, those wars were all WRONG!
Kewl, I'm gonna visit the enrichmetn blog from tuesday lessonater!
Are you kidding. those wars were wrong. Really? I don't think so. Sometimes you hav to fight for what you believe in.
OOPS Wrong NAme
I dunno maybe I went a bit too fast...but I always ask myself: Do we really need war to find freedom, peace, adn happiness? I really don't think so!
Hitler (and Mussolini later) as far as I know, have already started a war by the time Britain and France declared war on Germany. Communism, Slavery, Genocide, and terrorism are not PEOPLE, thus it's impossible to assassinate IDEAS. Which Castro are you talking about?
Saddam Hussein did not bother with the U.S. but it's the U.S. who started this war.
I am not talking about assassinating I am talking about getting rid of them
Or to stop
I don't actually say that much on this blog but for what it's worth I think that sometimes you have to STAND UP for what you believe in but you DON"T HAVE TO FIGHT FOR IT!!!!! No matter what you believe it is not worth killing people who are innocent (like Hitler's men; they might have fought but that didn't mean they thought it was right.)
And sapphire turquoise like you said we do not have to fight in order to have/keep peace! So why then did u.s. bomb and attack Iraq? To "keep" the peace?
sOMEONE has been lisstening to the media. US didn't bomb Iraq
First of all, U.S. did release bombs in Iraq during the war. (I wonder if your media source was accurate.) There were even reports that some of the bombs accidentally landed in Iran and other surrounding countries who have nothing to do with the war. (Not saying those reports were accurate. According to other sources, the danger of death increased 2.5 fold after the war. Is U.S. really doing their job of peace keeping?
General S, at the philosophical party, you said everyone is selfish, and there would not be selfless givings. But in the U.S. and Iraq debate: "they are doing a it out of pure generosity." were your exact words.
Sorry that was a hyperbole. Obviously Bush did have some selfish reason for going in to Iraq. But that is not what the war has turned into. any ways at the garden party you all twisted my words. All I was stating If faced with the prospect of death for something they would pick life. You all are twisting my words
i believe this may be pertinent. http://www.thebestpageintheuniverse.net/c.cgi?u=bomb_iran check it out
Iran????!!!! What does anything hav to do with Iran???!!! Your link has the word Iran in it...I'll try it out for sure!
Uhhhhh...that wuz a nice poem...maybe...i don't really know...
I did not like the fact that they mentioned the Quran, Allah, and Ebrahim at all. It was quite a weird poem I must say! Anyhow, in order for Iran to be bombed by any country or any one, they have to cross my dead body first! Actually, they should cross my dead body even if they want to bomb a country other than Iran...
I HATE BOMBING AND WAR AND WEAPONS! Unless they're used for defence or to like achieve something good!
Iran has been bombed, and they themselves have access to nuclear weapons.
o my god, this is the craziest conversation ever, you should read it from start to finish.
first of all, do you know you said war is okay if it's in defense? i probably said that too, somewhere, but it sounds really silly. i really don't think war is okay either way. of course soemtimes there is no choice, and standing up for what you believe in is the right thing to do. but if no one started it, no one would have to end it.
also i agree with general s, the iraq war is neccessary at this time, even if it MAY have been prevented. almost all countries have deep rooted issues of selfishness enlayed into their actions, so i wouldn't be so surprised if the original act was a bad decision. but seeing as we can't change the past, we should focus on the fact that protecting the iraqis NOW is important
Uh...if Iran didn't defend themselves agaist Iraqis some years ago, I wouldn't be here right now!
It's really disgusting though isn't it? Whe ur forced to kill in order to live????!!!!
The poem was funny, but it could not be taken seriously. I would start a war in order to defend myself, and it's right to do so. The Iraq war obviously could have been prevented, but now it's too late. Though I don't think the war is going too well. The U.S. troops will not be able to pull out of Iraq cleanly. They may never be able to set up a stable gov't, but millions of lives will be lost.
Whatg about Bush putting more troops in Iraq
take the political compass test
at www.politicalcompass.org Be prepared teh test is long
The extra troops only means extra casualties.
War isn't the answer.
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